One of the best interviews I’ve seen this year came out last week. In it, Benjamin Boyce interviewed Dr. Dani Sulikowski, a faculty member and researcher at Charles Sturt University in Bathurst, Australia. Dr. Sulikowski researches how evolved social and reproductive strategies can account for modern sociopolitical ideologies, among other things. Importantly, she is a theorist, but backs up her work with empirical testing of her various hypotheses. What this means is that her work is very grounded, at least in part, on large issues.

Here’s the Youtube interview link:

The interviewer focuses on what Woke actually means in terms of civilizational effect. None of it is good, of course. But what Dr. S leans in on is that deep substrate of how Woke is a contemporary outgrowth of what she calls “manipulative reproductive suppression” — a meta-scale pattern of behavior which females use against other females, as well as the society at large, to insure that only their offspring emerge from a given societal narrowing as bearers of the genetic blueprint for the next generation.

In the interview, she describes all the various virtue signaling and luxury beliefs that current society provides to make sure women don’t reproduce their genes. Most of these are primarily directed against women. But there are other strategies that women as a whole direct toward men to discourage them from actually having children. These various games, such as promotion of abortion, as well as constraining the windows for women to have children through encouragement of reproductive delay, occur after resource stabilization in advanced societies, and the number of children per women fall to individual replacement, or below replacement levels. Then, the genetic incentives for success of offspring become dependent on others’ offspring NOT succeeding.

And then it’s game on. Dr. S brings up the various modern strategies of promoting trans ideologies — actual castration and sterilization of children — as a mode, but also brings up past trends, such as celebrities adopting obvious badges of their success as kids from different races than their own, to communicate to other women that status can only be had by pouring in resources into children who are obviously not in their genetic lineage. Much like cowbirds lay their eggs in other birds’ nests, counting on adoption of their own egg by the duped nest minders, these deception schemes utilize humans’ advanced intelligence to create even more elaborate modalities for reproductive failure of other females.

Dr. S primarily scales her analysis across the individual, which is very useful for creating empirical experiments. But when her insights are broadened into the context of Elite Overproduction — a 150 to 250 year cycle observed by Peter Turchin, one of the founders of cliodynamics, the mathematical study of history — whereby societies go into collapse-oriented crucibles because too many elites are playing an odd Musical Chairs game where only some of their children will emerge as the new elites — things become very interesting indeed.

How do Elite Overproduction episodes end? From a masculine perspective, Elite Overproduction periods end with wars, where elites send them off into some involved fracas that kills off enough of their children that the number of elites are stabilized, and then societies enjoy some level of peace until the cycle repeats itself. Trauma from these wars tends to fuel a temporary growth of psychopathy from phenomena like PTSD, as well as elevation of warrior berserkers that were probably psychopaths in the beginning. None of this is particularly pleasant. But it also fits into a convenient narrative of the time — that men run societies, men are fundamentally violent and possessive of “toxic masculinity” and as such, are the only players in these large scale cycles. And as with most contemporary views on women, women end up in the Mother Mary category of virtuous compliance, powerless victims of men’s more base appetites, and not the contributors to societal collapse that they might be.

Dr. S. blows this all apart by delineating the various games women play, that lead to destruction of societies. And while she doesn’t utilize some of the tools we lean heavily on with this blog, like the difference between independently generated, high empathy relationships vs. externally defined low empathy relationships, she does a great job in the interview of outlining numerous strategies of deception, with an intent toward failure, that women are prone to use. These are outlined in the Woke playbook — don’t trust your own judgment that men aren’t women; revert to norms dictated by Immiserators in dealing with your contacts in larger society; as well as using things like Permission Structures to adopt beliefs seen as virtuous by others that are directly counter to your own personal interest.

And what THIS does is induce cognitive confusion, ostensibly in the pursuit of moral goodness, that is dictated by psychopaths manipulating mental models to control ever larger populations.

Why does this matter? In order to break a society, you have to have a large enough population of psychopaths, willing to pursue their own jihad against the relational structures in a society that causes it to become destabilized and collapse. And when you’re at our stage of population density and relational sophistication and evolution, that means you must undermine enough societal agency so people lose their ability for rational thought and double down on tribal affiliations. Which then, of course, leads to war, and the more obvious forms of ending Elite Overproduction.

And Dr. S. has perfectly described exactly how those female psychopaths are created. By creating a society wrought with “Double Binds” — constant warping of reality through the pressure of immiserating morality — you create an entire class of powerful, yet very manipulable people.

What is a “Double Bind”? Let’s consider the simple example used in the interview of whether rock star Lizzo is beautiful or not. Lizzo is a morbidly obese African-American pop star (though I do understand she’s lost weight recently.) Her picture from Vanity Fair is below. She’s a big old hog.

If you are asked by your female partner if you think Lizzo is beautiful, if you follow contemporary mores, whether you think so or not, you had better say ‘yes’ regardless of your actual opinion, lest you be accused of being a racist, fat-phobic, or one of many different epithets du jour.

But if you turn around, and tell your thin-waisted partner that she reminds you of Lizzo, and that she is as beautiful as her, then you better watch out for that roundhouse punch headed for your jaw. Lizzo might be able to sing, but she’s still a big old fat hog. It’s only the pronouncement of it, as well as mapping it to your partner, that threatens your health. I wrote in this piece how the defense of the “fat is beautiful” campaign is actually an embedded genetic failure mechanism that would be used in a society already cursed with an obesity epidemic. But Dr. S. has called it out for what it is — a malignant form of reproductive suppression, in large part embedded in the genes and only emergent in our time.

And why does this matter? The constant, and chronic double binds manufactured by modern Woke culture, and bombarded across civilization now offer an avenue for the cognitive confusion and abuse to create a critical mass of Axis II, Cluster B personality disorders. And these folks then can form up into what I’ve called Vampire Colonies — where the psychopaths overwhelm the majority of society. This has already likely happened in Great Britain. But because they are now all relational disruptors, no societal coherence can be generated. The downstream is something we’re seeing, especially in large metropolitan areas — relational disruption and gaslighting turn into public policy, which then leads to enshrinement of rights of social disruptors and criminals, and collapse. And the terrible thing is that it happens in the context a new, unworkable morality that further leads to conflict, and potentially civil war. Not everyone ends up a vampire. And someone’s neck has to provide the blood.

One of the interesting things about Dr. S’s research is she dug down into the v-Meme perspectives of her research subjects (my words, not hers) and uncovered many women publicly espousing opinions that they did not privately hold, especially when they involved reproduction. A great example would be conservative women publicly stating support for abortion — a classic deception to make liberal women believe they have more allies for their cause, but in reality just sabotaging different v-Meme cohorts through false flag support. If they can get more differentiated cohorts to kill their unborn, then the less children of elites to compete with their own. Similar behavior happens in the public school/private school debate. There is a cohort of people wanting to constrain individual choice in school selection, because they have plenty of money to send their kids to private schools. And the production of those inferior schools mean less competition for their own kids. They already know that public schools suck.

One of the crazy outcomes of all of this chronic promotion of double binds is, as I stated above, the creation of larger cohorts of psychopathic personalities (especially borderline personality disorders,) which then go about creating the various luxury beliefs, described eloquently by Rob Henderson here, and virtue signals necessary to immiserate and create havoc in society. But there are more insidious side effects as well. Psychopaths are far more likely to sexually abuse children. And sexual abuse of children then leads to even more psychopaths.

The collapse that happens in such a society is not easily recoverable. It’s essentially a tribal-level reset. And the problem with that level of reset is a dramatic reduction in population density. Psychopaths simply cannot maintain the information complexity necessary for the people on the planet. We’re already seeing this with the elevation of fraud in the journalism corps, and the spreading of alternative narratives that are very tribal-myth-adoptable. Look at the current Russiagate debacle on the Left, where Hillary Clinton and Adam Schiff spawned a disinformation campaign directed at undermining current President Trump. This piece is being written on August 15, 2025. Stay tuned.

Road Warrior here we come. And we didn’t even need a nuclear holocaust. Just brainworms in enough Affluent White Female Urban Liberals (AWFULs).

Are there paths out? So much of this behavior is emergent, it is very difficult to control. But the path out of this, as I stated in this piece, is upward psychosocial evolution. But it’s going to count on women to lead the way. There must be some sublimation of core drives in the female community involving a reorientation of status regarding nurture, and a diminution of the social control part of the fundamental female dyad of nurture/social control.

Or else we’re on the path to involuntary extinction, based on the bet that not the men, but elite women have created, that once the collapse happens, their genes will be the ones that repopulate the planet. But I would remind the psychopathic utopian women who might read this. If you think that through duplicity, you’re going to somehow avoid the inevitable outcomes of societal collapse, you’re really condemning your daughters to the inevitable fruits of war. There will be men who survive. But most will be killed, and the inevitable downstream outcome, that we see time and again in history is that the fate of the women will be rape and slavery.

My fervent hope is that women in aggregate realize this before it happens. Your genes will not care, nor be able to affect who they are paired with. Because in that phase of history, unlike today, with the sidebars of civilization, you will not be the ones running the show.